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The gap right now is only 30', which is just 10' per rider. If TJV takes their whole train close to the line while blowing everyone else up, they could put some time into it. Looks like the gap after stage 16 is 35', and Ineos made up half that on Movistar just in stage With little chance for GC, Ineos is likely to hunt stage wins, which could get them some big time gaps.
The climbs, while long, don't seem hard enough to me Let's hope Soler finally gets his GT stage win. He was denied that at Vuelta '19, stage 9 team order. Bernal has clearly overtrained coming into this block and is cooked. I expect to see very little from him this week.
I think that the yellow train will fire with all the cylinders tomorrow so I think that it will be between Pogacar, Roglic and Porte again tomorrow as they seem to be on another level compared to the other GC guys. I hope that Porte won't have his usual bad day tomorrow. I see a lot of people wonder why do you need a train if you have the TJV train to cling to. Just think what will happen if Porte or Pogacar get a mechanical half way the final climb tomorrow.
And then ask yourself what will happen if Roglic has the same issue. Or just maybe you're not at the top level for just this one day and Roglic and Kuss and whoever remains in the group go crazy in the last few kms. You'll lose minutes.
Conversely, what happens if you feel frisky in the peloton. Best case you are a minute up the road with a few km to go when Roglic finally busts a 3km uphill ITT to close you down. You'll have trouble maintaining any gap, let alone the 40 seconds Pogs needs. Hoping Porte does well too. Obviously Rigo is my guy, but Porte seems like such a good spirited bloke, I can't not root for him. Also the TJV train rides at the pace Rog wants them too, not the pace the others may want.
I rode up both the Madeleine and the Col de la Loze in July. The Madeleine's been on the Tour enough times. The start is steep, but riding up it's just boring main road going passed a bunch of ski resorts. The last km is actually nice to ride. The roads get a lot narrower there, but you're suddenly above the tree line and have some amazing views so really nice if you're not racing up it to win the biggest race of your life. And you can see quite far ahead at times, which might be a disadvantage for anyone going for a Froomey.
Because the friend who set out the route doesn't trust French building works time schedules, we weren't entirely sure the Meribel side was paved and open to cyclists and went up the Courchevel side. The climb from the other side is very similar, though the first 17km of it were absolutely terrible.
Big busy road through ski towns again with lots of close passing lorries trundling up to build even more ski lifts. It didn't get fun till the final 5km where, similar to the Meribel side, the road is closed to cars. Bliss when you turn off the road. Though I kind of love those ramps that are so steep that you can only ride all in and don't even know where the pain is coming from anymore.
Type 2 fun. Going down the side the Tour will go up, the first 13km of the climb are just the steady main roads, but the gradient in the last 5km is very variable - a lot more than all the black on the profile suggests. Once they pass Meribel, they immediately get onto the newly paved cycling only section. It's very narrow and the first 3km is very windy and still has some tree cover, so if you attack there, you can be out of sight of your chasers quickly.
Which is important as the final 2km are in one straight line this is really fun when you're standing at the top looking down and you can see the road is so steep that it disappears from view a few times so the GC contenders will be able to see each other there if the gaps aren't too big. Should make for some exciting racing. Prediction: lots of talk about ski jumping. Though there's also a polkadot bike , so I'll opt for Pogi riding himself into the polkadots and a very exciting GC behind the breakaway.
I was sure that it was paved on that side, but my friend was sure it wasn't as she'd been to Meribel in spring and said there wasn't a road there. I'd only realised were going up the 'wrong' side the morning off, so didn't have time to look it up. When we got to the top she realised it was that she'd been there. Yeah, and she didn't realise yet how big of a TdF geek I am, so "but I've seen it on the internet! Who is that in the promo picture? The last US man to win a road race world championship was Quinn Simmons last year but he wore long sleeves and had a beard.
Before him it was Lance in , but that's clearly not Lance. Which is still a bit confusing as he won a stage up the Saint-Sorlin-d'Arves in Maybe Evans 2. Really appreciate your insights and experiences in this subreddit, even though I'm getting a bit jealous of your cycling trips :P Thanks so much! I also think uran will lose time to the other gc contenders. Got my money on either Bernal obviously saving energy today or Lopez. Bernal's knee and back are hurting him.
He's just trying to finish the tour at this point. Can someone explain what a queen stage is? Is this just the most challenging stage on that particular tour? Miguel Angel "Superman" Lopez will get dropped 5 times on the final climb but will recover exactly 5 times then will fly off into the clouds gaining 3 minutes on Roglic.
This prediction is ridiculous. The break has little chance of success since Bora will chase till the intermediate sprint and TJV will set a hard tempo for the last two climbs. My prediction:. Will TJV set a high tempo at the first one tho? It would be way better for TJV if the breakaway takes the win and the bonus seconds, as Pogacar has shown us that he beats Roglic in the sprint.
Especially Bernal stage win? I'd be very happy for him but he seems to be more concerned with making it to Paris than to win anything right now. Yes, but he also isn't feeling good. It's the hardest stage. Pogacar and Roglic are the big favourites, Jumbo might make tempo early. Breakaway needs to get like 15 minutes pretty early to win. I really can't see Mas, Caruso or G. Martin winning. They will sit in the GC group and try to hold onto Roglic and Pogacar as long as possible.
Alaphilippe will make random attacks again to tire himself out once again, therefore unable to stay with the breakaway. Nah, Ala said he will go on stage 18 because he talked to van aert and they plan to control this stage for the win. Rolland and Conesfroy are tied for mountain points. Peters is four points behind in fifth position.
The climb up the Col de la Loze has an altitude difference of almost m over I don't think an early breakaway will be spotted a big enough lead to make it. This is the 3rd week of the Tour, and the only stage above meters. The two HC climbs both are very long. Thus, things might shake out differently than in the Pyrenees or the Massive Central. That much said, Jumbo still is the strongest team, they will be able to control the peloton, the pace, and the other GC contenders.
And they will keep the pace high once the climb up the Madeleine has been reached. As expected, Bernal took it easy today. Tomorrow, Bernal could either try to go into a breakaway, or stay with the GC contenders until the Col de la Loze, and then attack at higher altitude. They would let him go, but after two days of rest, will he have recovered sufficiently to convert such an attack into a stage win?
I consider that a possibility, but I also think that something went wrong with Ineos' preparation. The whole team has underperformed in a way that cannot be explained by their earlier crashes. I think Bernal will try, get a minute or two ahead, but ultimately will be caught. Pogacar will have to attack tomorrow if he wants to win the Tour. On the 18th stage, the profile is such that the Tour can't be won there, only lost if a rider has a bad stage.
And attack he will, several times. I thus expect that Pogacar and Roglic once again will dish it out, and on the long climb up the Col de la Loze will wear out each other. Porte will be able to sit in, and ultimately stage the stage win. No way that if Porte, Pog and Rog are together at the end of the stage that the latter two would entertain a Porte win. The point is that Porte is behind in the GC. Also, I expect that on the last few kilometers of this stage, the nice Jumbo train will be gone.
When Pogacar attacks, Roglic has to counter the attack. Nobody will help him there. When Roglic attacks, Pogacar has to counter the attack. However, when Porte attacks, neither Roglic nor Pogacar have to react immediately. If Lopez or Landa would still be there, those would have to react I'm sure that Yates will be gone, and pretty confident that Uran will be a bit behind.
But I expect them to not be able to first keep up with Pogacar on all his attacks, and then still be able to counter a late attack by Porte. Totally agree other than maybe CoSNEfroy. Only a very good climber can win tomorrow. Slim chances. Today we have seen a different Roglic, he was not the one who tries to beat every other GC contender for the first time.
This affects Pogacar a lot. So I believe they keep their train till last kms as always and then Roglic will sit Pogacar's wheel for last meters, no more head to head long uphill sprints from Roglic. I Don't think he will try to pass Pogacar before last m. EDIT: Paved, and here is a video of someone riding up it.
It's paved, but was only paved a couple years ago, so the sattelite pictures are just outdated. It's Europe's highest bike path. It wasn't done for the finish tomorrow. Attracting the Tour might have been one of the reasons for doing it. But the biggest part is attracting summer tourists to Meribel and Courchevel, and getting the Tour is a good way to get attention to the climb.
What would be nice would be for Roglic to win by three minutes and then let WVA have some fun in the roller stage, TT stage and sprint stage that round out the tour Three stage wins would round off his tour nicely. WvA needs to start thinking about keeping a lower profile. He is giving me some lates flashbacks right now.
He isn't beating any of the best climbers who are on form. He just rides a steady, controlled tempo. There's been 20 riders left when he pulls off. If this was the '90s he'd be goin g Riis and Ulrich up the mountain and sprinting away from riders half his size.
At least back then the gullibility of the fans was somewhat understandable. Nowadays, it's mystifying. Have you seen him climbing in this tour Seriously though Roglic is still mad about Colombier. TJV will test the legs of the GC contenders on the Madelaine and go full gas on col de la loz, Roglic attacks at m to go and puts 15 second into everyone. He made a big mistake there and it was quite weird, he had Kuss with him and even though he attacked first.
I have seen Landa and Froome in that position so many times, every time Landa attacked first and then Froome followed after other GC contenders. You may say that why would they even go after Kuss when he is not a GC, but they have to, they need 10sec bonus. If they don't, free stage win. TJV should put Dumo in the break and see if they can get one of the teams fighting for 3rd to do some work pulling the peloton. This is the best way to have all your rivals suddenly forget their rivalry and work together against you, while at the same time, tiring your second best rider in the wind.
Anybody else think Martinez will be on baby sitting duties for Uran? They initially got into contention by accident, but once they had it they were trying to keep it according to Vaughters. EF let Powless and Bettiol go up the road today. They obviously aren't keeping everyone on domestique duty.
Martinez and Carthy feel like the ones Uran might need Idk they let Martinez win a mountainous stage before, I don't see why he wouldn't be allowed to try again. I fancy Martinez as top pick for the breakaway riders Those podium spots mean a lot to riders like him. This stage makes me worried for movistar and their ambition to be the best team. Trident or no trident above m has always proven difficult for one of them, soler has been a bit of a dumpster, not good enough for gc and not good enough to get to the end of a breakaway stage Mas has been quietly uraning it.
They need to start hyping this battle, since after tomorrow all the other classifications could be all but decided The end of the Col de la Loze is amazingly steep and a few meters gap will be worth precious seconds. Roglic and Pogacar have proved masters of the short and powerful acceleration but this is really steep He never really attacked, but the speed at which he bridged to Nibali when he did attack suggests to me he had really good legs. It was Zakarin first, and then Bahrain Merida who pushed on, Movistar just kept a steady pace.
In the end, Nibali, annoyingly got the first Italian win of the race, I thought he'd be the best of the GC men once they came over the top, I just didn't think he would win.. And I really actually think that Quintana would have won today had he not decided to not attack the Pink Jersey.
Landa was unlucky, but he was out on his feet, Quintana wasn't far off at all, and Davide Formolo was a brilliant 6th behind an impressive looking Pozzovivo and a poorly-descending Zakarin. So the GC has been thrown wide open again, with Nairo now just 31" behind Dumoulin, and Nibali has come up on the rails to take 3rd in the GC off of Pinot. He now sits just 1'12" off of Dumoulin's lead and is legitimately a serious contender for the win now.
Yates and Formolo move up to 10th and 11th, hopefully Formolo can go a step better and finish in the top 10 for us. He's looking in good shape to take a podium at worst in the White Jersey competition, it's all very tight with him and Yates and Jungels, there's only 2'42" between the three of them. As for tomorrow's stage, what with the brutally hard day they all had today and knowing what is coming for the rest of the week, the GC teams will be happy to let a large group of riders go up the road and take it easy for the day.
And the break are likely to fight it out over the uphill drag to Canazei for the last 30kms. The Route. They start in Tirano and almost as soon as they leave the town they start climbing the Aprica after just 2. A long descent of nearly 70kms then takes the peloton across the Val di Sole, all the way to San Michele alla'Aldige where they start on the 3rd climb of the day to Giovo, a Cat 3 climb that is 8. The route climbs slightly in the last 27kms - it looks steeper than it is on the profile, it averages just 1.
Passo del Tonale. To come.. I think the break will make it today, so concentrating my picks on those who might get in the break, with a short look at possible GC winners later on. I don't think there is much point in going in to too much detail on each pick, there are some guys in there I've picked already, we know their strengths and style etc, so a few lines on each is enough I think.
I think the best place to start too is avoiding most of those who got in the break today, as that was a pretty hard day today to say the least.. Rui Costa was in the break, but I don't know if he really had such a hard day, he was at the back all the time and just seemed to be looking after himself a bit..
He might fancy this sort of route, the last 30kms would suit him perfectly. I think I'll wait until I see who's in the break and maybe have a go then. Luis Leon Sanchez worked hard for the Mortirolo prize, and on the Stelvio to get the 3rd place points, but then sat up and took it easy for the rest of the stage, rolling home almost 35 mins down. He may well have decided he was not going to be strong enough to take the points on the Umbrail pass and he might have been thinking about tomorrow already.
With two Cat 2 climbs early on, Landa may not get in the break and he could well take the jersey off of him. Valerio Conti is over an hour back, so no problem there with being let go. He was very unlucky on the hill to Peschici in stage 8, he seemed to be riding well enough, but would he have been able to match Izagirre's kick when he went? I'm not sure, but either way, he will still be desperate to make amends for that mistake and could well be involved in the finish here.
Enrico Battaglin is one of my favourites for this stage though, I think he can win from the two possible scenarios - he can get in the break, and would be one of the better sprinters at the finish, we saw that when he outsprinted Michael Woods on stage 8 behind Izagirre, and in fact he has been riding well all race. And if he doesn't manage to get in the break, there is a chance he can win from the peloton if it comes back together.
Giovanni Visconti is another perfectly suited to tomorrow's stage, and he kind of got the day off today, working a little early on but then rolled home more than a half an hour down. He too has been one of the most active in this race, finishing 2nd to Izagirre on stage 8 and almost catching Fraille's group on stage 11, finishing 5th.
He crashed about a week ago but has been able to recover and ride capably. Gaviria won the Giro della Toscana this year. He also earned victories on three separate stages of the Vuelta a San Juan. Andrea Vendrame is competing in his third consecutive Giro and seeking his first stage victory. At the age of 26, Vendrame is a good sprinter who has enough strength to deal with hills.
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